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Moofat
06-27-2006, 02:18 AM
Real HYIP Programs
Investment-HYIP.info

99% of all HYIPs are scams and simple ponzi schemes

As you may already know from our previous articles, almost all of the HYIPs
are scams, pure ponzi schemes. These HYIPs don't invest the money anywhere, promise high returns and collapse few weeks - few months after they've started operating.

Most of these programs use the same premade script, which can easily be installed and configured. Beginning investor may find it difficult to distinguish such HYIPs from real ones, but as your online investing experience grows, you will be more careful.

After first few months I was able to find out which HYIPs are the real ones and which of them would dissapear soon with a high degree of certainty. In this article I'll try to show you how to find the real trading programs.

What is a Real HYIP?

By real HYIP we usually mean those programs which actually invest the money deposited by their members. The money may be invested in forex trading, in offshore schemes or even in offline businesses, but it should be invested.

Some of the programs may invest the money to other hyip programs or funds - these are mutual funds. To make sure the program is a real and trading is indeed involved you need to see the trading results and investment records, but a program owner will never reveal wher he invests the money to (unless it's a mutual fund - then it always provides information about its investments).

Besides, a ponzi program owner will never tell you that his program is a ponzi (have you every seen a HYIP, telling it's a ponzi hyip?). So you see now, that defining a real HYIP is not an easy problem, but there are few things that should be considered.

Ponzi HYIP may be described by the following

* use a known template
- most of simple ponzi HYIPs use one of the few know templates, which are very cheap

* spend much on advertising
- real program usually don't need much advertising

* high returns
- this is the easiest criteria, if you see a program offering 15% daily - it's a 100% ponzi

* high referral percents
- more than 10% referral fees should rise your suspicions.

* was recently openned
- Investing in new HYIPs is very dangerous, even if it promises you 35% daily, it may not be there tomorrow..

* is promoted by spam
- Never register to any program promoted by spam.

* hosted at a free site
- I've seen a lot of scammers hosting their HYIPs at free domains, hard to believe but there are people who invest in those HYIPs too. You may usually get spam message promoting some of those HYIPs.

Real HYIP may be described by the following

* good and unique site design
- almost all real programs use custom designs and these scripts are also rather expensive

* technical support is usually very efficient
- real program owners usually try to answer on your emails as fast as possible

* is online for a long time (over a year)
- the older a program is, the more confident it is

* reasonable percents and referral fees
- 0.5-1% daily is a safety margin. referral fees are usually 2-10%

* any certifying documents
- thousands of companies offer certificates to other sites, it can prove the owners identity

* disclosed information about the owners
- if a HYIP owner calls himself "admin", he is most likely not a professional investor..

While by these simple principles you may easily find lots of scam programs, they are not enough to reveal serious scammers and should only be used as a reference, not a guide or an algorithm to verify the HYIP.

However, the more information you know and the more HYIP related articles you read the easier it will be for you to stay away from those ponzi programs and to stick to real HYIPs only.

Try to define your own measures for an honest HYIP, you will see that it's not so difficult to find out the real programs when you have some experience and a lot of sources of information. Always apply your own HYIP investigation, before considering a significant investment.

Good Luck in your Real HYIP investments.

Jessica
06-29-2006, 03:20 AM
Because hyip scripts are easily found at low price with the high benefits in return. That's why we found a lot of scammers these days.

MasterHYIPs.com
06-30-2006, 10:25 AM
this is Very Important Post , Everyone Should Read before Entering to the HYIPS World

i Suggest ,Sticky this Lesson .

phanom
06-30-2006, 10:27 AM
Great post. Thank you.

internui
06-30-2006, 12:38 PM
Thanks for your information.
So, how many real Hyip programe in this world.
^^"

pramez
06-30-2006, 03:36 PM
Thanks for your information.
So, how many real Hyip programe in this world.
^^"

I don't know but however it can't be open for life but just which HYIP will be continue for long time :cool:

Moofat
06-30-2006, 04:46 PM
Hyips stay real as long as they're paying. lol

KyleFX-AS88
07-08-2006, 01:59 AM
Another great post by Moofat again.. Thanks for it..

pramez
07-08-2006, 07:45 AM
Another great post by Moofat again.. Thanks for it..

Moofat posted this thread for a week ;)

tonro
07-09-2006, 02:03 PM
99% of all HYIPs are scams and simple ponzi schemes

its true and many hyip used

pramez
07-09-2006, 02:06 PM
But HYIP game are the most that are not scam because they also get their profit.

swisry
07-24-2006, 03:40 PM
yup i,m with u all 99% hyip scam..but for me now it better to join real hyip investment....

ayeen38
07-24-2006, 03:43 PM
For me the only one I invest is PS.. :D

ne3ro
07-24-2006, 06:26 PM
the owner of most scam hyip are likely to be the same person..

rajabisnes
07-24-2006, 07:56 PM
Great info coz i'm new in HYIP.. this is my first time to get involve in hyip.. hope that i'm choosing the Real hyip... :D

Vip3R
07-24-2006, 11:14 PM
Great info coz i'm new in HYIP.. this is my first time to get involve in hyip.. hope that i'm choosing the Real hyip... :D

if you done you research well and also have good experience..everythng should be fine...

Vip3R
07-24-2006, 11:16 PM
yup i,m with u all 99% hyip scam..but for me now it better to join real hyip investment....

well it depends too...some hyips clearly claims to be a game which is 100% ponzi...so in this case..i would not call it scam since the risk is clearly stated there.....some wins, some lose.

mimie99
07-24-2006, 11:18 PM
yupp... dont invest if u dont willing to loose

Vip3R
07-24-2006, 11:19 PM
yupp... dont invest if u dont willing to loose

yep 100% agree with you....every game have its own risk.....

perabangan
07-25-2006, 03:47 AM
hard to find a really good site these days

riswanrahman
07-25-2006, 03:55 AM
all we do in this world is very risky. The biggesst risk is ... everydays we do.... driving a car... if u r no bum to people... .....people will bum to u.... u don't have a luck... bye.... sayonara..... rest in peace...

so... Hyip risk is too low to me...... no pain.... no game .... bro

ismail1973
07-25-2006, 04:01 AM
So ur r risktaker aren't u riskwanrahman. I remember my tok guru quote "Lower your risk you be in profit"

wan12345
07-25-2006, 04:17 AM
Many Hyip Scam And Ponzi....
Run Less 7 Day Run....
For Me Play Safe

LilySi@
07-25-2006, 06:14 AM
Many Hyip Scam And Ponzi....
Run Less 7 Day Run....
For Me Play Safe

for me..most last only 1 - 2 days...really scare to this type of prog...

em5studio
07-25-2006, 10:25 AM
another good post from moofat, thks

shuk
07-25-2006, 12:50 PM
Good info for us..be carefull to invest any new HYIP

swisry
07-25-2006, 05:59 PM
Many Hyip Scam And Ponzi....
Run Less 7 Day Run....
For Me Play Safe

yup same here...play safe mike.

kismet
07-26-2006, 04:09 AM
Many Hyip Scam And Ponzi....
Run Less 7 Day Run....
For Me Play Safe
agreed!agreed!agreed!:D

pulus99
07-26-2006, 04:20 AM
Any hyip need to reque (rekiie) b4 joining...check d forum/monitor concerned.
A lot of scamming out there...beware!
Long life P$...

manCatur
07-26-2006, 05:47 AM
Real HYIP Programs
Investment-HYIP.info

99% of all HYIPs are scams and simple ponzi schemes

As you may already know from our previous articles, almost all of the HYIPs
are scams, pure ponzi schemes. These HYIPs don't invest the money anywhere, promise high returns and collapse few weeks - few months after they've started operating.

Most of these programs use the same premade script, which can easily be installed and configured. Beginning investor may find it difficult to distinguish such HYIPs from real ones, but as your online investing experience grows, you will be more careful.

After first few months I was able to find out which HYIPs are the real ones and which of them would dissapear soon with a high degree of certainty. In this article I'll try to show you how to find the real trading programs.

What is a Real HYIP?

By real HYIP we usually mean those programs which actually invest the money deposited by their members. The money may be invested in forex trading, in offshore schemes or even in offline businesses, but it should be invested.

Some of the programs may invest the money to other hyip programs or funds - these are mutual funds. To make sure the program is a real and trading is indeed involved you need to see the trading results and investment records, but a program owner will never reveal wher he invests the money to (unless it's a mutual fund - then it always provides information about its investments).

Besides, a ponzi program owner will never tell you that his program is a ponzi (have you every seen a HYIP, telling it's a ponzi hyip?). So you see now, that defining a real HYIP is not an easy problem, but there are few things that should be considered.



* use a known template
- most of simple ponzi HYIPs use one of the few know templates, which are very cheap

* spend much on advertising
- real program usually don't need much advertising

* high returns
- this is the easiest criteria, if you see a program offering 15% daily - it's a 100% ponzi

* high referral percents
- more than 10% referral fees should rise your suspicions.

* was recently openned
- Investing in new HYIPs is very dangerous, even if it promises you 35% daily, it may not be there tomorrow..

* is promoted by spam
- Never register to any program promoted by spam.

* hosted at a free site
- I've seen a lot of scammers hosting their HYIPs at free domains, hard to believe but there are people who invest in those HYIPs too. You may usually get spam message promoting some of those HYIPs.



* good and unique site design
- almost all real programs use custom designs and these scripts are also rather expensive

* technical support is usually very efficient
- real program owners usually try to answer on your emails as fast as possible

* is online for a long time (over a year)
- the older a program is, the more confident it is

* reasonable percents and referral fees
- 0.5-1% daily is a safety margin. referral fees are usually 2-10%

* any certifying documents
- thousands of companies offer certificates to other sites, it can prove the owners identity

* disclosed information about the owners
- if a HYIP owner calls himself "admin", he is most likely not a professional investor..

While by these simple principles you may easily find lots of scam programs, they are not enough to reveal serious scammers and should only be used as a reference, not a guide or an algorithm to verify the HYIP.

However, the more information you know and the more HYIP related articles you read the easier it will be for you to stay away from those ponzi programs and to stick to real HYIPs only.

Try to define your own measures for an honest HYIP, you will see that it's not so difficult to find out the real programs when you have some experience and a lot of sources of information. Always apply your own HYIP investigation, before considering a significant investment.

Good Luck in your Real HYIP investments.

Now I get to know what is ponzi all about...so far I never bother it..:D

https://www.profitswinger.com/?ref=21333

manCatur
07-26-2006, 05:49 AM
this is Very Important Post , Everyone Should Read before Entering to the HYIPS World

i Suggest ,Sticky this Lesson .


Agreed with sir...


ref link not allowed

l0l0l0l0l0l0l
07-26-2006, 06:58 AM
try to avoid GC scripts. those also end up with script hacking issue

kmS
07-26-2006, 07:18 AM
my favorite HYIPs are the ones saying that we can "trade forex and make high returns" haha, 200% in 3 days is no where near achievable trading forex and other "high return" investments.

as-syukree
07-26-2006, 10:39 AM
Real hyip should offer big money, but most are scam. Be reasonable usualy if the hyip involve in Forex return should be about 5% daily. eg MDFP and P$ and many more.

aunpower
07-28-2006, 08:50 AM
try to avoid GC scripts. those also end up with script hacking issue
agree with u

basket
08-02-2006, 09:11 PM
To all hyip play, this is a must read post to remind us...

basket
08-04-2006, 10:40 AM
it's very hard to sense scam. That's nature of HYIP, high return at very high risk.

Moofat
08-05-2006, 04:40 AM
Yes, HIIP offer high profit in return. Don't let money blind you. :D

Jason83
08-17-2006, 07:50 PM
Thanks for the tip.:)

picozoo
08-23-2006, 05:10 PM
nowadays there are a lot of new HYIP using old script... hehehe~ bewareee..

but, i got one question, is it if one programme mostly like a Money Game, also can be categorize as poor programme?

ssufian
08-23-2006, 09:03 PM
But HYIP game are the most that are not scam because they also get their profit.

Basically, investment is not risky... being uneducated is risky...

for me... HYIP Game is not risky as long as you know how to play with it...

many people had already gained a lot of $$$ from HYIP Game because they know the rules of the game and play with it professionally....

for me... I'm not into this kind of game... play safe... I only play in HYIP Forex or other Mutual Fund Investment such as SwissCash...

my personal view... auto / manual surf is also NOT an investment instrument... it's more like an advertisement program where you are rewarded with credits and SOME money for viewing other ads... join them if ONLY you have a website you want to share with other members in those auto / manual surf program... otherwise... it's not very effective....

use the right tools for the right job...

ssufian
08-23-2006, 09:05 PM
try to avoid GC scripts. those also end up with script hacking issue

What do u mean by GC scripts?

Can u refer me to any articles or websites to get more infos about this GC scripts?

Perhaps you could give me one or two programs which are using this GC scripts for example.

Thank you.

PS_Fan
08-24-2006, 09:19 AM
GC script is one of script that we use to build our own hyip or as... We can buy this script.. GC is Gold Coder... please visit this website for more information http://www.goldcoders.com..

Cruise
08-24-2006, 02:40 PM
Gold Coders scripts are higly insecure, also, because they are downloadable from several p2p programs, scammers use GC Scripts.

PS_Fan
08-24-2006, 04:35 PM
Gold Coders scripts are higly insecure, also, because they are downloadable from several p2p programs, scammers use GC Scripts.

I think highly potential scammer will buy pirate script ... so no info we will track them... Juz my opinion..

headshot
08-24-2006, 05:45 PM
a new breed of scammers also use customized scripts.. but in the ebd all falls down.

P$eudoKOD
08-25-2006, 02:16 AM
wah its really scary if we enter the world of hyip without any knowledge.

ssufian
08-25-2006, 02:44 AM
wah its really scary if we enter the world of hyip without any knowledge.

P$eudoKOD...

Investment is not risky... being uneducated is risky....

ssufian
08-25-2006, 02:45 AM
wah its really scary if we enter the world of hyip without any knowledge.

P$eudoKOD...

Investment is not risky... being uneducated is risky....

You just need to understand the rules and how to play the game as what it is...

ssufian
08-25-2006, 03:41 AM
Okay...

Thanx for the valuable info about GC Script...

Now... recently I've found this...

http://hyip-designer.biz/

what do u think about this script?

any recommendation?

thank you